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	<title>Comments on: Life on the inside: an inmate&#8217;s view</title>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, they are not. They&#039;re supposed to come out shamed, scared and with no prospects for the future. It&#039;s all &quot;life on the installment plan&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, they are not. They&#8217;re supposed to come out shamed, scared and with no prospects for the future. It&#8217;s all &#8220;life on the installment plan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2009/11/15/life-on-the-inside-an-inmates-view/comment-page-1/#comment-52120</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment is far too long for me to respond to without giving it due thought. I&#039;ll get to it soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment is far too long for me to respond to without giving it due thought. I&#8217;ll get to it soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I read the full series ... quite, quite depressing. And folks are supposed to come out &lt;i&gt;rehabiliated&lt;i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I read the full series &#8230; quite, quite depressing. And folks are supposed to come out <i>rehabiliated</i><i>?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Horowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Horowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rats! I was waiting for you to comment on his comments about public defenders.  

In my own experience -- and, btw, I am a private attorney -- I originally would always tell potential clients that I was not going to badmouth public defenders.  I pointed out to them that there are good public defenders and bad ones, which, I said, is exactly the same when it comes to private attorneys.  It is unfortunately not true that &quot;you get what you pay for.&quot;  &lt;em&gt;Perhaps&lt;/em&gt; a fee is a partial indicator: a fee that significantly undercuts quotes someone might have received from other attorneys is probably a red flag.  But you can still get a &quot;free&quot; public defender who does a better job than a lot of private attorneys you could hire.  

In fact, &lt;em&gt;all other things being equal&lt;/em&gt; (which, sadly, they are not), I would expect public defenders to be &lt;em&gt;better&lt;/em&gt; attorneys, on average, than private attorneys.  Among other reasons, they get more experience and are more often &quot;tried by fire&quot; than private attorneys.  Plus, they&#039;re usually part of the largest defense firm in town, giving them access to even more experience.  

Now, above, I said, &quot;originally&quot; I would not badmouth public defenders.  In a sense, I still won&#039;t.  But in my part of the world, it has become even more difficult to obtain good representation from a public defender.  This is not the fault of the public defenders who remain after budget cuts.  It is because California has apparently decided that indigent criminal defense is not &lt;em&gt;remotely&lt;/em&gt; as important as arresting and prosecuting people.  (It&#039;s never been as important: but now it&#039;s not even close.)  Staff levels -- lawyers AND support staff such as investigators -- are so low and client loads are so high that I doubt even the best of public defenders does as good a job as most of their clients need.

Last year, when the Fresno County District Attorney&#039;s Office blamed the high acquittal rate on &quot;not enough money,&quot; rather than overcharging and overzealous prosecution with inadequate investigation, they were apparently heard.  Sort of.  

They didn&#039;t get more money.  But public defenders, who handle the majority of clients in this county, got less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rats! I was waiting for you to comment on his comments about public defenders.  </p>
<p>In my own experience &#8212; and, btw, I am a private attorney &#8212; I originally would always tell potential clients that I was not going to badmouth public defenders.  I pointed out to them that there are good public defenders and bad ones, which, I said, is exactly the same when it comes to private attorneys.  It is unfortunately not true that &#8220;you get what you pay for.&#8221;  <em>Perhaps</em> a fee is a partial indicator: a fee that significantly undercuts quotes someone might have received from other attorneys is probably a red flag.  But you can still get a &#8220;free&#8221; public defender who does a better job than a lot of private attorneys you could hire.  </p>
<p>In fact, <em>all other things being equal</em> (which, sadly, they are not), I would expect public defenders to be <em>better</em> attorneys, on average, than private attorneys.  Among other reasons, they get more experience and are more often &#8220;tried by fire&#8221; than private attorneys.  Plus, they&#8217;re usually part of the largest defense firm in town, giving them access to even more experience.  </p>
<p>Now, above, I said, &#8220;originally&#8221; I would not badmouth public defenders.  In a sense, I still won&#8217;t.  But in my part of the world, it has become even more difficult to obtain good representation from a public defender.  This is not the fault of the public defenders who remain after budget cuts.  It is because California has apparently decided that indigent criminal defense is not <em>remotely</em> as important as arresting and prosecuting people.  (It&#8217;s never been as important: but now it&#8217;s not even close.)  Staff levels &#8212; lawyers AND support staff such as investigators &#8212; are so low and client loads are so high that I doubt even the best of public defenders does as good a job as most of their clients need.</p>
<p>Last year, when the Fresno County District Attorney&#8217;s Office blamed the high acquittal rate on &#8220;not enough money,&#8221; rather than overcharging and overzealous prosecution with inadequate investigation, they were apparently heard.  Sort of.  </p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t get more money.  But public defenders, who handle the majority of clients in this county, got less.</p>
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