Drunk driving is different

Ordinarily, on a criminal law blog, the words “is different” would usually be preceded by the word “death” and an accompanying rant about the futility of the death penalty and the special standards to be applied in deciding whether a State should be in the killing business (I do not disappoint: see next post). However, today we learn that our esteemed Chief Justice uses another “d” word to finish that sentence: drunk driving.

In an odd little dissent from the denial of cert in Virginia v. Harris, Chief Justice Roberts essentially argues that anytime police receive an anonymous tip that someone is driving drunk and they find that person, they should be able to pull them over and conduct an investigatory stop.

The story in Harris essentially was that some woman called the cops refusing to give her name, but said that Harris was driving drunk in a green Altima and wearing a striped shirt. The police found a green Altima in the general vicinity of where she said it would be, and the license plate was “close enough” to the partial description she provided. Importantly, however, Harris did not commit any traffic violations (damn those pesky drunk drivers not providing any bases for a pretextual stop!), so when he pulled over to the side of the road, the cop followed suit and initiated a traffic stop. It is not clear why he pulled over (probably because he was drunk and saw a cop following him) or what the cop initiated a stop for (probably because he was a cop and he could). Anyway, Harris reeked and was arrested.

Not so fast, said the Virginia Supreme Court, relying on Florida v. J.L. SCOTUS, in its wisdom, determined less than a decade ago that anonymous tips, by themselves are worth diddly-squat:

An anonymous tip has a relatively low degree of reliability, requiring more information to sufficiently corroborate the information contained in the tip. See J.L., 529 U.S. at 270. “Unlike a tip from a known informant whose reputation can be assessed and who can be held responsible if her allegations turn out to be fabricated, ‘an anonymous tip alone seldom demonstrates the informant’s basis of knowledge or veracity.’ ” J.L., 529 U.S. at 270 (quoting Alabama v. White, 496 U.S. at 329) (citation omitted).

The indicia of reliability of an anonymous tip may be bolstered when the tipster provides predictive information, which the police can use to test the tipster’s basis of knowledge and credibility.  However, for such predictive information to bolster the tipster’s basis of knowledge or credibility, the information must relate to the alleged criminal activity. Providing information observable or available to anyone is not predictive information and can only “help the police correctly identify the person whom the tipster [meant] to accuse.” J.L., 529 U.S. at 272. An anonymous call that provides no predictive information leaves the police without a means to test the tipster’s knowledge or credibility. J.L., 529 U.S. at 271.

And it makes perfect sense. if this were not the case, I could call the police and say I saw Scott walking down the street, carrying an AR-15 and a suitcase full of meth and he told me he was going to go rob some prosecutors. That’d be enough for them to arrest him. Now, I know he’s not actually doing any of those things, but he’d be harassed a bit. Chief Justice Roberts’ response to this, though, is that “drunk driving is different”. Okay, he didn’t actually use that pithy phrase, but that’s essentially what he thinks:

The imminence of the danger posed by drunk drivers exceeds that at issue in other types of cases. In a case like J. L., the police can often observe the subject of a tip and step in before actual harm occurs; with drunk driving, such a wait-and-see approach may prove fatal. Drunk driving is always dangerous, as it is occurring. This Court has in fact recognized that the dangers posed by drunk drivers are unique, frequently upholding anti-drunk-driving policies that might be constitutionally problematic in other, less exigent circumstances.

Riiight. So a cop who is following a driver based on an anonymous tip couldn’t pull him over if the driver was say…driving erratically? No, of course not. That would make too much sense. There’s definitely more harm there than, say, a drug deal gone bad. You know how those cops love to point out to juries that drug dealers are violent types known to carry guns.

I don’t know why he chose to dissent in this case, but one can suspect that perhaps his whole intention isn’t really to distinguish between drunk driving and other offenses, but rather to do away with that pesky J.L. case altogether.

Either way, good thing he was all alone in his dissent. Well, besides that MADD amicus brief, which I won’t link to because this is a respectable, family oriented blog.

11 thoughts on “Drunk driving is different

  1. Jeff Gamso

    But think of all the fun we would have had if the Chief got his way. We could, every day, make anonymous calls that Chief Justice Roberts, and also Justices Thomas, Alito, and Scalia, and what the hell, Ginsburg, Stevens, Breyer and Sotomayor, and their spouses and partners were driving drunk. And they could all be rousted, legally, every day. Maybe Orrin Hatch, too. And Senators Kyl and . . . .

    Golly, what a prospect!

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  2. Michael

    While not up on the jurisdiction issues of drunk driving (I make sure I’m well stocked at home before drinking so I don’t need to make any of those 12:59 liquor runs), Isn’t driving a states right issue, so wouldn’t drunk driving be a state issue? What’s this doing at the federal level. Did the anonymous tip cross state lines?

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    1. Gideon Post author

      Well, yeah, but this is an appeal from a State court decision involving the interpretation of the 4th Amendment. Since the Fed’l Constitution provides the floor for rights, if it violates the 4th Amd., then it violates state law as well.

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      1. Michael

        This is interesting. Ohio has a 800 number to call if you think someone is driving drunk. I guess the law is OK as long as the cop can come up with another reason to pull the driver over.

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  3. hates cops

    you would never get the impression that I dislike law enforcement. How the hell is drunk driving not applicable to the constitution? I mean really…Is MADD that good of a lobbying group? I’m putting my money behind DAMM

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  4. Jdog

    Utterly bizarre, and shows how a lack of real-world background can lead a very smart guy to an utterly absurd conclusion or three. If Roberts had ever done a ride-along with a cop, he’d have known that pretty much any cop can find (or, if he’s willing to lie, which not just for the record, I’m opposed to, make up) probable cause for a pretextual stop with a little bit of patience.

    Which is exactly what this reads like Picard was trying to do — he tails the guy, who doesn’t do much of anything (slowing at an intersection where you have the right of way is something a prudent driver will do, from time to time, while cold sober, and that’s the most suspicious thing that Harris did) and then when the guy pulls over, Picard loses his patience. Instead of going over for a chat — legally, apparently, not a seizure, as the Supremes apparently are of the opinion that folks would think that they are free to say, “Thank you, but no,” and drive away if a cop comes up to the car asking, say, “Hi — can I talk to you for a minute?” without having pulled it over — he decides that he’s got enough to do what he wanted to do in the first place . . .

    Sheesh. Like there’s not enough holes in the 4th Amendment, already?

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  5. Rogue Medic

    frequently upholding anti-drunk-driving policies that might be constitutionally problematic in other, less exigent circumstances.

    Isn’t this just a watered down version of the justification for torturing people because they might be able to provide the information needed to stop a bomb from killing innocent people moments before the detonation?

    While I do not mean to defend drunk driving, how is this driver creating an exigent circumstance without violating any laws? I would think that the lack of pretext excludes any claim of exigent circumstances.

    PS I love the way the comments show a current preview, has adjustable text size, and allows for email updates.

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  6. Michael

    Had MADD not so water-downed the legal limit, drunk drivers would be easier to spot. The legal system has made a joke of what should be a serious situation.

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