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	<title>Comments on: Judge Wu is so screwed</title>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/12/04/judge-wu-is-so-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-44689</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, the defense requested a bench trial, but the prosecution refused to go along.  I think it&#039;s wrong to allow the prosecution to have a vote on that issue.  I have always thought the right to a jury trial belonged to the defendant and the defendant alone.  If she doesn&#039;t want to be judged by a jury, that ought to end the inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, the defense requested a bench trial, but the prosecution refused to go along.  I think it&#8217;s wrong to allow the prosecution to have a vote on that issue.  I have always thought the right to a jury trial belonged to the defendant and the defendant alone.  If she doesn&#8217;t want to be judged by a jury, that ought to end the inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark in Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOS is a private contract... there is no criminal liability for breaking it, as there is no law that holds it in force.  

One could just argue lack of &quot;prior notice&quot; in the criminal statutes, as in &quot;void for vagueness&quot;, which is violative of Due Process, right?

We&#039;ve got to get the jury to start considering the facts AND the LAW :D

I&#039;ve got to read the exact charges and the bill; I&#039;ve just heard of this case, read the history, and it seems &lt;b&gt;insane&lt;/b&gt; that the defense put this in front of  a jury instead of a judge familiar with technology law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOS is a private contract&#8230; there is no criminal liability for breaking it, as there is no law that holds it in force.  </p>
<p>One could just argue lack of &#8220;prior notice&#8221; in the criminal statutes, as in &#8220;void for vagueness&#8221;, which is violative of Due Process, right?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got to get the jury to start considering the facts AND the LAW <img src='http://apublicdefender.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to read the exact charges and the bill; I&#8217;ve just heard of this case, read the history, and it seems <b>insane</b> that the defense put this in front of  a jury instead of a judge familiar with technology law.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/12/04/judge-wu-is-so-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-44406</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s ridiculous. It&#039;s the &quot;well, I can&#039;t upset a jury&#039;s verdict&quot; mentality. And realistically, what&#039;s the backlash from doing so? A piece in the press?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s ridiculous. It&#8217;s the &#8220;well, I can&#8217;t upset a jury&#8217;s verdict&#8221; mentality. And realistically, what&#8217;s the backlash from doing so? A piece in the press?</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m just lazy and don&#039;t live up to the high standards of one Juror Kunasz.

As for Judge Wu, I once had a judge say after the jury convicted my obviously innocent client, &quot;Well, the verdict would have been different if this case had been tried to me.&quot;  Gah!  Then grant the motion for judgment of acquital!  Or grant the post-verdict motion for judgment notwithstanding the verdict!  You can do that, you know.  But, no, instead of doing the right thing, he let my client rot for 7 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m just lazy and don&#8217;t live up to the high standards of one Juror Kunasz.</p>
<p>As for Judge Wu, I once had a judge say after the jury convicted my obviously innocent client, &#8220;Well, the verdict would have been different if this case had been tried to me.&#8221;  Gah!  Then grant the motion for judgment of acquital!  Or grant the post-verdict motion for judgment notwithstanding the verdict!  You can do that, you know.  But, no, instead of doing the right thing, he let my client rot for 7 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wha? Don&#039;t you people read anything? There are links, like, everywhere!

As for Judge Wu, I&#039;d be very (pleasantly) surprised if he grants the motion to dismiss. As more time passes, it gets hazier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wha? Don&#8217;t you people read anything? There are links, like, everywhere!</p>
<p>As for Judge Wu, I&#8217;d be very (pleasantly) surprised if he grants the motion to dismiss. As more time passes, it gets hazier.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have TOS?  Am I committing a crime with my comment?

This case is such a mess.  The Missouri prosecutors who declined to file charges were right, of course.  This judge knows it.  That&#039;s why he has thus far taken every opportunity to pass the buck.  So the question now is will he pass the buck to the appellate court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have TOS?  Am I committing a crime with my comment?</p>
<p>This case is such a mess.  The Missouri prosecutors who declined to file charges were right, of course.  This judge knows it.  That&#8217;s why he has thus far taken every opportunity to pass the buck.  So the question now is will he pass the buck to the appellate court?</p>
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