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	<title>Comments on: Can a State copyright its statutes?</title>
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		<title>By: SPO</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/05/06/can-a-state-copyright-its-statutes/#comment-30234</link>
		<dc:creator>SPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state has zero interest in its laws.  None.  The law is, by definition, public property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state has zero interest in its laws.  None.  The law is, by definition, public property.</p>
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		<title>By: MissConductPDX</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/05/06/can-a-state-copyright-its-statutes/#comment-30227</link>
		<dc:creator>MissConductPDX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, PS:  There ain't nothing wrong with Oregon.  We have mountains, we have an ocean, we have a court that continues to rule that the cops don't have a right to talk to you most of the time.

We have Article I, Section 8 of the Oregon Constitution which protects the freedom to express yourself on any topic "whatever."  Hell, it even protects live sex shows:  http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/S49707.htm

Alright, so the Portland cops tend to beat people up:  http://circuit9.blogspot.com/2007/06/players-great-victory-by-portland-afpd.html, but at least I can point to two volcanos from my office in downtown Portland.

Oh, and the fishing is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, PS:  There ain&#8217;t nothing wrong with Oregon.  We have mountains, we have an ocean, we have a court that continues to rule that the cops don&#8217;t have a right to talk to you most of the time.</p>
<p>We have Article I, Section 8 of the Oregon Constitution which protects the freedom to express yourself on any topic &#8220;whatever.&#8221;  Hell, it even protects live sex shows:  <a href="http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/S49707.htm" >http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/S49707.htm</a></p>
<p>Alright, so the Portland cops tend to beat people up:  <a href="http://circuit9.blogspot.com/2007/06/players-great-victory-by-portland-afpd.html" >http://circuit9.blogspot.com/2007/06/players-great-victory-by-portland-afpd.html</a>, but at least I can point to two volcanos from my office in downtown Portland.</p>
<p>Oh, and the fishing is great.</p>
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		<title>By: MissConductPDX</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/05/06/can-a-state-copyright-its-statutes/#comment-30222</link>
		<dc:creator>MissConductPDX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Kay.  Here I am, a PD from Portland, Oregon.

I have NEVER had any difficulties accessing Oregon's code on-line here:  http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/

It's all there.  As a matter of fact, it was all there LONG before the books were available for purchase.

Additionally, our legislative archives are also readily accessible on-line:  http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/banners/legis.htm

The whole things sounds stupid, I know, but the state has a proprietary interest in the formatting of the laws, at least, don't you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Kay.  Here I am, a PD from Portland, Oregon.</p>
<p>I have NEVER had any difficulties accessing Oregon&#8217;s code on-line here:  <a href="http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/" >http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all there.  As a matter of fact, it was all there LONG before the books were available for purchase.</p>
<p>Additionally, our legislative archives are also readily accessible on-line:  <a href="http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/banners/legis.htm" >http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/banners/legis.htm</a></p>
<p>The whole things sounds stupid, I know, but the state has a proprietary interest in the formatting of the laws, at least, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: SPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's BS.  The people who are trying to do this ought to be locked up.</description>
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		<title>By: Windypundit</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/05/06/can-a-state-copyright-its-statutes/#comment-30082</link>
		<dc:creator>Windypundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 05:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"Also, what the hell is wrong with Oregon? Why, in this day and age, would you be so stubborn and so stupid? What is really the point of “protecting” the Code? I don’t understand what they’re trying to accomplish, other than look foolish.&lt;/i&gt;"

I think they're trying to do the same thing everyone else tries to do with a copyright.  Quoting from the website of the Oregon State Legislature:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The 2007 Oregon Revised Statutes and other law publications are available for purchase from the Office of Legislative Counsel.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

$390 for the whole set.

(Here in Chicago, the electrical codes aren't online at all, but you can buy a book.  The book is sold by a third party.  I'll bet they contribute a lot to their alderman's campaign fund.)

&lt;i&gt;"Anyway, anyone see a potential notice problem here?"&lt;/i&gt;

I'm sure anyone with an interest in Oregon statutes is welcome to visit the state house and examine a copy in the clerk's office during regular business hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Also, what the hell is wrong with Oregon? Why, in this day and age, would you be so stubborn and so stupid? What is really the point of “protecting” the Code? I don’t understand what they’re trying to accomplish, other than look foolish.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I think they&#8217;re trying to do the same thing everyone else tries to do with a copyright.  Quoting from the website of the Oregon State Legislature:</p>
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The 2007 Oregon Revised Statutes and other law publications are available for purchase from the Office of Legislative Counsel.
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<p>$390 for the whole set.</p>
<p>(Here in Chicago, the electrical codes aren&#8217;t online at all, but you can buy a book.  The book is sold by a third party.  I&#8217;ll bet they contribute a lot to their alderman&#8217;s campaign fund.)</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Anyway, anyone see a potential notice problem here?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure anyone with an interest in Oregon statutes is welcome to visit the state house and examine a copy in the clerk&#8217;s office during regular business hours.</p>
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