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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/01/09/govs-task-force-gets-2-out-of-3-right/comment-page-1/#comment-13546</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burglary in the first degree is currently defined as follows:
Sec. 53a-101. Burglary in the first degree: Class B felony. (a) A person is guilty of burglary in the first degree when he enters or remains unlawfully in a building with intent to commit a crime therein and: (1) He is armed with explosives or a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or (2) in the course of committing the offense, he intentionally, knowingly or recklessly inflicts or attempts to inflict bodily injury on anyone.

Burglary in the second degree is currently defined as follows:
Sec. 53a-102. Burglary in the second degree: Class C felony. (a) A person is guilty of burglary in the second degree when such person (1) enters or remains unlawfully in a dwelling at night with intent to commit a crime therein, or (2) enters or remains unlawfully in a dwelling, while a person other than a participant in the crime is actually present in such dwelling, with intent to commit a crime therein.

A dwelling is defined as follows:
Sec. 53a-100. Definitions. (a) The following definitions are applicable to this part: (1) &quot;Building&quot; in addition to its ordinary meaning, includes any watercraft, aircraft, trailer, sleeping car, railroad car or other structure or vehicle or any building with a valid certificate of occupancy. Where a building consists of separate units, such as, but not limited to separate apartments, offices or rented rooms, any unit not occupied by the actor is, in addition to being a part of such building, a separate building; (2) &quot;dwelling&quot; means a building which is usually occupied by a person lodging therein at night, whether or not a person is actually present...

You are correct, Phil, that prior to the Cheshire incident, the DOC and the Board of Pardons and Parole did not classify a Burglary 2 as a &quot;violent offense&quot; for purposes of parole eligibility - only Burglary 1 and Burglary 2 with a firearm.

Again, increasing the penalty and/or classification for Burglary 2 when someone is home (even if no one is injured, so no Burglary 1) might be a justified response to the public outcry and fear over Cheshire, but making a new statute to criminalize an act that is already criminal is not necessary to achieve that goal and may create other unintended problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burglary in the first degree is currently defined as follows:<br />
Sec. 53a-101. Burglary in the first degree: Class B felony. (a) A person is guilty of burglary in the first degree when he enters or remains unlawfully in a building with intent to commit a crime therein and: (1) He is armed with explosives or a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or (2) in the course of committing the offense, he intentionally, knowingly or recklessly inflicts or attempts to inflict bodily injury on anyone.</p>
<p>Burglary in the second degree is currently defined as follows:<br />
Sec. 53a-102. Burglary in the second degree: Class C felony. (a) A person is guilty of burglary in the second degree when such person (1) enters or remains unlawfully in a dwelling at night with intent to commit a crime therein, or (2) enters or remains unlawfully in a dwelling, while a person other than a participant in the crime is actually present in such dwelling, with intent to commit a crime therein.</p>
<p>A dwelling is defined as follows:<br />
Sec. 53a-100. Definitions. (a) The following definitions are applicable to this part: (1) &#8220;Building&#8221; in addition to its ordinary meaning, includes any watercraft, aircraft, trailer, sleeping car, railroad car or other structure or vehicle or any building with a valid certificate of occupancy. Where a building consists of separate units, such as, but not limited to separate apartments, offices or rented rooms, any unit not occupied by the actor is, in addition to being a part of such building, a separate building; (2) &#8220;dwelling&#8221; means a building which is usually occupied by a person lodging therein at night, whether or not a person is actually present&#8230;</p>
<p>You are correct, Phil, that prior to the Cheshire incident, the DOC and the Board of Pardons and Parole did not classify a Burglary 2 as a &#8220;violent offense&#8221; for purposes of parole eligibility &#8211; only Burglary 1 and Burglary 2 with a firearm.</p>
<p>Again, increasing the penalty and/or classification for Burglary 2 when someone is home (even if no one is injured, so no Burglary 1) might be a justified response to the public outcry and fear over Cheshire, but making a new statute to criminalize an act that is already criminal is not necessary to achieve that goal and may create other unintended problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/01/09/govs-task-force-gets-2-out-of-3-right/comment-page-1/#comment-13478</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking and entering into an occupied residence should be considered a violent felony and that is not presently the case. Why should the statute be changed? Because people have the right to feel secure in their homes. Breaking into a detached garage or a business is not nearly as psychologiclly and physically threatning as breaking into a home where one resides with ones spouse and children. It is as much a violation of the occupants physical and psychological integrity as having a gun waved in ones face in the street during an armed robbery. Home invasion should recognized under tha law as a much graver crime than simple burglary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking and entering into an occupied residence should be considered a violent felony and that is not presently the case. Why should the statute be changed? Because people have the right to feel secure in their homes. Breaking into a detached garage or a business is not nearly as psychologiclly and physically threatning as breaking into a home where one resides with ones spouse and children. It is as much a violation of the occupants physical and psychological integrity as having a gun waved in ones face in the street during an armed robbery. Home invasion should recognized under tha law as a much graver crime than simple burglary.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/01/09/govs-task-force-gets-2-out-of-3-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12797</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda: you have permission to speak for me. Anything to make me seem more intelligent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda: you have permission to speak for me. Anything to make me seem more intelligent.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/01/09/govs-task-force-gets-2-out-of-3-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12796</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another: You can be convicted of both unlawfully entering &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; unlawfully remaining in a residence. Add in home invasion and now you have &lt;i&gt;three&lt;/i&gt; offenses for the identical act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another: You can be convicted of both unlawfully entering <i>and</i> unlawfully remaining in a residence. Add in home invasion and now you have <i>three</i> offenses for the identical act.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with Gideon - burglary encompasses situations where people are home. It&#039;s already illegal.  If we want to increase the punishment, add a sentence to the already existing statute and add time for burglaries of homes when people are at home.  I can&#039;t speak for Gid, but I personally wouldn&#039;t oppose increased punishment for those offenses - it&#039;s just silly and redundant to make another whole offense for it, when it&#039;s already covered.

Not to be a nerd (and maybe inaccurate because I don&#039;t know the proposed text of the proposed statute), but it also might cause double jeopardy problems and/or unintended consequences. For example, if Defendant breaks into a home and occupants are asleep inside, he would be guilty of the new offense &quot;home invasion.&quot;  May he be convicted of burglary in addition?  Do we intend to create two separate offenses punishing the same conduct, or do we just want a stiffer penalty for one offense?

If it&#039;s the latter, doesn&#039;t burglary become a lesser included offense of home invasion?  Are we now saying that when people are not home, it&#039;s a burglary; when people are home, it&#039;s a home invasion?  This position may be superficially appealing, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;ll fly without changes to the burglary statute, as well.  Right now, burglary covers home invasions when people are home.

Can&#039;t we for once avoid bad law writing and making and just add a sentence to burglary increasing the punishment when people are home??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Gideon &#8211; burglary encompasses situations where people are home. It&#8217;s already illegal.  If we want to increase the punishment, add a sentence to the already existing statute and add time for burglaries of homes when people are at home.  I can&#8217;t speak for Gid, but I personally wouldn&#8217;t oppose increased punishment for those offenses &#8211; it&#8217;s just silly and redundant to make another whole offense for it, when it&#8217;s already covered.</p>
<p>Not to be a nerd (and maybe inaccurate because I don&#8217;t know the proposed text of the proposed statute), but it also might cause double jeopardy problems and/or unintended consequences. For example, if Defendant breaks into a home and occupants are asleep inside, he would be guilty of the new offense &#8220;home invasion.&#8221;  May he be convicted of burglary in addition?  Do we intend to create two separate offenses punishing the same conduct, or do we just want a stiffer penalty for one offense?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the latter, doesn&#8217;t burglary become a lesser included offense of home invasion?  Are we now saying that when people are not home, it&#8217;s a burglary; when people are home, it&#8217;s a home invasion?  This position may be superficially appealing, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll fly without changes to the burglary statute, as well.  Right now, burglary covers home invasions when people are home.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t we for once avoid bad law writing and making and just add a sentence to burglary increasing the punishment when people are home??</p>
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		<title>By: SaucyVixen</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/01/09/govs-task-force-gets-2-out-of-3-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12684</link>
		<dc:creator>SaucyVixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know that in Connecticut it&#039;s illegal to dye a live rabbit or chicken?  

I bet there&#039;s no duplicate statute on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that in Connecticut it&#8217;s illegal to dye a live rabbit or chicken?  </p>
<p>I bet there&#8217;s no duplicate statute on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://apublicdefender.com/2008/01/09/govs-task-force-gets-2-out-of-3-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12677</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because that fact pattern is already covered by an existing statute.

As if there aren&#039;t enough useless duplicate statutes on the books already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because that fact pattern is already covered by an existing statute.</p>
<p>As if there aren&#8217;t enough useless duplicate statutes on the books already.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As with Windypundit, I too wonder why this blog&#039;s author is having such a difficult time distinguishing between burglary of a dwelling where no one is home, and burglary when a home&#039;s occupants are present. The two situations seem massively different in every meaningful way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with Windypundit, I too wonder why this blog&#8217;s author is having such a difficult time distinguishing between burglary of a dwelling where no one is home, and burglary when a home&#8217;s occupants are present. The two situations seem massively different in every meaningful way.</p>
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		<title>By: Windypundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windypundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having trouble understanding your objection to a &quot;home invasion&quot; law.  It&#039;s not unreasonable to assume that someone who enters an occupied home is a threat to the occupants in a way that a burglar of an empty home is not.  This is why it&#039;s generally legal to shoot people who break into your home, but not to set booby traps for them.

So what am I missing?  Overbroad definition of the crime?  Egregious punishment?  Too much prosecutorial discretion?  50-year sentences for junkies who steal televisions if the occupant was asleep in the bedroom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having trouble understanding your objection to a &#8220;home invasion&#8221; law.  It&#8217;s not unreasonable to assume that someone who enters an occupied home is a threat to the occupants in a way that a burglar of an empty home is not.  This is why it&#8217;s generally legal to shoot people who break into your home, but not to set booby traps for them.</p>
<p>So what am I missing?  Overbroad definition of the crime?  Egregious punishment?  Too much prosecutorial discretion?  50-year sentences for junkies who steal televisions if the occupant was asleep in the bedroom?</p>
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