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		<title>By: Thumbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thumbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“…is still so dangerous and calculating, officials testified Thursday, that he defies all conventional sex-offender treatment and no facility — in this state or beyond — will take him.”

Why don't to put the f*cker back to prison?
Nietzsche was right. When society becomes soft and gentle, it is on the side of those who hurt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…is still so dangerous and calculating, officials testified Thursday, that he defies all conventional sex-offender treatment and no facility — in this state or beyond — will take him.”</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t to put the f*cker back to prison?<br />
Nietzsche was right. When society becomes soft and gentle, it is on the side of those who hurt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark from Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;SPO&lt;/b&gt; said: 

&lt;i&gt;guess...future victims...animals...Sick&lt;/i&gt;

So I bet Connecticut &lt;b&gt;deserves&lt;/b&gt; a blue ribbon in its handling of this case?  Don't twist my words around.  

We're already dealing with what we deserve by not immediately dealing with our problems, instead, locking 'em away for thirty years. Overcrowded prisons, a clogged criminal justice system which ignores high-risk criminals, and cannot accomplish meaningful corrections or rehabilitation due to lack of funding and staffing. 

Anyways, what irrational fear-mongering propaganda you direct towards high-risk sex offenders: Maybe these sick animals must be euthanased in a gas chamber since they're "undesirable".  No, that's too painless, why not torture these animals to "protect the children". Where are you headed in your quest to eliminate "future victims"?

Maybe you should stop your guesswork, accept the reality that we live in a government bounded by the rule of law and the constitution, and propose a realizable solution?  

You can't go with some pie-in-the-sky "lock 'em up forever" scheme, as this doesn't play out well in our system of plea-bargaining charges down.  Victims don't want to testify.  Evidence can be inconclusive.  This means, in essence, most criminals are let back out.

Now, this is why treatment in prison is crucial:

You identify the criminals who are highest at-risk to re-offend, and separate them from the ones amenable to treatment. 

For the compulsive and repetitive offenders, you find their triggers, their behavior pattern, psychological profile.  Monitor the progress in therapy.  Keep them in civil commitment if they are uncooperative.  

Once out, keep them on a tight leash.  Eliminate sentences such as, thirty years to serve, followed by &lt;b&gt;nothing&lt;/b&gt;, no aftercare or monitoring. It leads to trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>SPO</b> said: </p>
<p><i>guess&#8230;future victims&#8230;animals&#8230;Sick</i></p>
<p>So I bet Connecticut <b>deserves</b> a blue ribbon in its handling of this case?  Don&#8217;t twist my words around.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re already dealing with what we deserve by not immediately dealing with our problems, instead, locking &#8216;em away for thirty years. Overcrowded prisons, a clogged criminal justice system which ignores high-risk criminals, and cannot accomplish meaningful corrections or rehabilitation due to lack of funding and staffing. </p>
<p>Anyways, what irrational fear-mongering propaganda you direct towards high-risk sex offenders: Maybe these sick animals must be euthanased in a gas chamber since they&#8217;re &#8220;undesirable&#8221;.  No, that&#8217;s too painless, why not torture these animals to &#8220;protect the children&#8221;. Where are you headed in your quest to eliminate &#8220;future victims&#8221;?</p>
<p>Maybe you should stop your guesswork, accept the reality that we live in a government bounded by the rule of law and the constitution, and propose a realizable solution?  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t go with some pie-in-the-sky &#8220;lock &#8216;em up forever&#8221; scheme, as this doesn&#8217;t play out well in our system of plea-bargaining charges down.  Victims don&#8217;t want to testify.  Evidence can be inconclusive.  This means, in essence, most criminals are let back out.</p>
<p>Now, this is why treatment in prison is crucial:</p>
<p>You identify the criminals who are highest at-risk to re-offend, and separate them from the ones amenable to treatment. </p>
<p>For the compulsive and repetitive offenders, you find their triggers, their behavior pattern, psychological profile.  Monitor the progress in therapy.  Keep them in civil commitment if they are uncooperative.  </p>
<p>Once out, keep them on a tight leash.  Eliminate sentences such as, thirty years to serve, followed by <b>nothing</b>, no aftercare or monitoring. It leads to trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: SPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I guess future victims get what they deserve from these animals.  Sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess future victims get what they deserve from these animals.  Sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark from Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;SPO&lt;/b&gt; said: 

&lt;i&gt;The people of the State “deserve what they get”.

That says it all. Mark, you are one sick puppy.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, you usually deal with the consequences of your actions.  That's what we tell criminals.  It's no different for the public at large, as they speak with a vote.  

Taxpayers and elected officials decide "No residential facilities for high risk sex offenders", "No new prison facilities", "No reentry services for inmates".  So let the guy go, with no support system, no treatment while incarcerated, no transition back to society.

You want the &lt;b&gt;cheap&lt;/b&gt; solution, you get what you deserve.    

I'd rather have a &lt;b&gt;comprehensive&lt;/b&gt; solution.  Not feel-good mandatory sentencing, not lock 'em up and throw away the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>SPO</b> said: </p>
<p><i>The people of the State “deserve what they get”.</p>
<p>That says it all. Mark, you are one sick puppy.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, you usually deal with the consequences of your actions.  That&#8217;s what we tell criminals.  It&#8217;s no different for the public at large, as they speak with a vote.  </p>
<p>Taxpayers and elected officials decide &#8220;No residential facilities for high risk sex offenders&#8221;, &#8220;No new prison facilities&#8221;, &#8220;No reentry services for inmates&#8221;.  So let the guy go, with no support system, no treatment while incarcerated, no transition back to society.</p>
<p>You want the <b>cheap</b> solution, you get what you deserve.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have a <b>comprehensive</b> solution.  Not feel-good mandatory sentencing, not lock &#8216;em up and throw away the key.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think civil commitment may be a better option. It seems to be used sparingly in California (I have a feeling the federal government will not be so generous when its program kicks into gear). Or more state funding for sex offender treatment programs. &lt;i&gt;

Reports from Coalinga indicate civil committment in CA is an abysmal failure--if one believes the state should endeavor to meet its SCOTUS-approved goals, that is.  If, however, civ-com's purpose is solely to extend confinement, then it's working just grand--as long as everyone is prepared to accept the fact we must all pretend the state isn't lying to the courts.

Treatment does work, but it's difficult to make it mandatory when, among other things, there's absolutely no incentive to be a willing participant in any program (good time credit doesn't apply in many states).  So treatment doesn't get applied until &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; release--when the registrant can't find a place a live or work, but must pay for therapy.

We know what reduces recidivism among high-risk offenders.  Circles of Support and Accountability is an excellent example.  Trouble is, the public simply doesn't like the answer, evidenced by the continual cutting of funds to similar programs.  

We also know what increases the risk factors associated with recidivism: unstable employment, unstable living arrangements, and social isolation.  Most lawmakers know this, too.  They've done an excellent job so far of hitting each and every one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think civil commitment may be a better option. It seems to be used sparingly in California (I have a feeling the federal government will not be so generous when its program kicks into gear). Or more state funding for sex offender treatment programs. </i><i></p>
<p>Reports from Coalinga indicate civil committment in CA is an abysmal failure&#8211;if one believes the state should endeavor to meet its SCOTUS-approved goals, that is.  If, however, civ-com&#8217;s purpose is solely to extend confinement, then it&#8217;s working just grand&#8211;as long as everyone is prepared to accept the fact we must all pretend the state isn&#8217;t lying to the courts.</p>
<p>Treatment does work, but it&#8217;s difficult to make it mandatory when, among other things, there&#8217;s absolutely no incentive to be a willing participant in any program (good time credit doesn&#8217;t apply in many states).  So treatment doesn&#8217;t get applied until </i><i>after</i> release&#8211;when the registrant can&#8217;t find a place a live or work, but must pay for therapy.</p>
<p>We know what reduces recidivism among high-risk offenders.  Circles of Support and Accountability is an excellent example.  Trouble is, the public simply doesn&#8217;t like the answer, evidenced by the continual cutting of funds to similar programs.  </p>
<p>We also know what increases the risk factors associated with recidivism: unstable employment, unstable living arrangements, and social isolation.  Most lawmakers know this, too.  They&#8217;ve done an excellent job so far of hitting each and every one.</p>
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		<title>By: SPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people of the State "deserve what they get".  

That says it all.  Mark, you are one sick puppy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people of the State &#8220;deserve what they get&#8221;.  </p>
<p>That says it all.  Mark, you are one sick puppy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark from Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a failure of the State.  This guy has spent &lt;b&gt;thirty&lt;/b&gt; years in jail.  That gives the State &lt;b&gt;thirty&lt;/b&gt; years to get treatment for this guy, plan ahead for his release, and find him a place to live.  If society, and all of its citizens, are willing to ignore a problem for &lt;b&gt;thirty&lt;/b&gt; years, then yeah, the people of the State deserve what they get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a failure of the State.  This guy has spent <b>thirty</b> years in jail.  That gives the State <b>thirty</b> years to get treatment for this guy, plan ahead for his release, and find him a place to live.  If society, and all of its citizens, are willing to ignore a problem for <b>thirty</b> years, then yeah, the people of the State deserve what they get.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life imprisonment might be an option for serious recidivists, and it makes just as much sense as the habitual offender statutes in place in most jurisdictions.  But the temptation to give long sentences to sex offenders who have offended against children will be too great.  Moreover, mandatory minimums have proven as troubling in this area as they were in drug sentences.  In AZ, for example, child pornography defendants face 10 year mandatory minimums for each image, to run consecutively.  Yes, you heard me: 20 images, 200 years.  And the feds have an effective 5 year mandatory minimum; keep in mind, these are not even offenses that involve victims per se.  
 I think civil commitment may be a better option.  It seems to be used sparingly in California (I have a feeling the federal government will not be so generous when its program kicks into gear). Or more state funding for sex offender treatment programs.  

 I'm not surprised the MSM is paying more attention: more "stranger danger"/"predators among us" sensationalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life imprisonment might be an option for serious recidivists, and it makes just as much sense as the habitual offender statutes in place in most jurisdictions.  But the temptation to give long sentences to sex offenders who have offended against children will be too great.  Moreover, mandatory minimums have proven as troubling in this area as they were in drug sentences.  In AZ, for example, child pornography defendants face 10 year mandatory minimums for each image, to run consecutively.  Yes, you heard me: 20 images, 200 years.  And the feds have an effective 5 year mandatory minimum; keep in mind, these are not even offenses that involve victims per se.<br />
 I think civil commitment may be a better option.  It seems to be used sparingly in California (I have a feeling the federal government will not be so generous when its program kicks into gear). Or more state funding for sex offender treatment programs.  </p>
<p> I&#8217;m not surprised the MSM is paying more attention: more &#8220;stranger danger&#8221;/&#8221;predators among us&#8221; sensationalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Okay, but perhaps his type needs to be sent to prison for life in the first instance?&lt;/i&gt;

As always, the trouble lies not in determining the strategy, but in implementing the logistics of it.  While life imprisonment is a popular strategy, its logistical needs may far exceed its benefits.  "If it saves one person" is not an acceptable justification if, to implement the policy, resources are taken from policies that may save two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Okay, but perhaps his type needs to be sent to prison for life in the first instance?</i></p>
<p>As always, the trouble lies not in determining the strategy, but in implementing the logistics of it.  While life imprisonment is a popular strategy, its logistical needs may far exceed its benefits.  &#8220;If it saves one person&#8221; is not an acceptable justification if, to implement the policy, resources are taken from policies that may save two.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we'll know where he is for the time being...

More and more cities are placing restrictions on where sex offenders can live. In some places as much as 75% of the city's area is off limits. Many offenders will be forced to drop off the map in order to have a roof over their head. They HAVE to live somewhere. 

I'd sure as hell rather know a sex offender is living in my neighborhood - than NOT know about the one who's been forced into 'secretly' living next door to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least we&#8217;ll know where he is for the time being&#8230;</p>
<p>More and more cities are placing restrictions on where sex offenders can live. In some places as much as 75% of the city&#8217;s area is off limits. Many offenders will be forced to drop off the map in order to have a roof over their head. They HAVE to live somewhere. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d sure as hell rather know a sex offender is living in my neighborhood - than NOT know about the one who&#8217;s been forced into &#8217;secretly&#8217; living next door to me.</p>
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