I’ll take a pay cut, I’m Indian!

UPDATE: Please read the comments for Scheherazade’s response and
clarification. Ofcourse, I should have realized that she was talking
about Indians living abroad. But I’ve really had it up to here with the
"you’re stealing our jobs" crap, so I lost my intelligence a little
bit. My apologies.

Original Post: Stay of Execution has a post entitled "Legal Lies", in which she(?) "exposes" the truths about law school and the legal industry. Not a bad read. Here’s what really got my attention, though:

** We permit young associates to believe that they are somehow worth $125,000 a year, without knowing any law, even though there are smart, experienced, well-trained Indians who can do the same work, better, for far less.

I’m sorry. What’s that again? So Indians, who go to the same law schools, incur the same debt, would be willing to work for less than any other associate at a law school? Why? Because they’re Indian? Right. The call-center thing. Which is just the same as graduating from a law school with a professional degree.

So I should take a pay cut because I’m Indian. Gov. Rell, let me give you back some of my hard-earned income.


Hat tip: Amb Imb.

4 thoughts on “I’ll take a pay cut, I’m Indian!

  1. Scheherazade

    No, silly. I mean, you’ll work for less because you live in India, and you didn’t incur the same amount of debt, and your cost of living is a fraction of what it is here.

    Or because you’re from Turkey. I was on the phone with a Turkish military judge the other day. We were on Skype, so talking with him was free. He was practicing his conversational English, and it was terrific. He’s writing his dissertation in international law. Very smart guy, who’s been a judge for 6 years. He says that in Turkey, government lawyers make about $1500 USD a month, private ones $2500/month. (A house costs approx $50K.)

    He says, sometimes lawyers around here can get a contract from an American firm and make double or triple that.

    I just meant that the barriers to communicating and exchanging documents with very smart, experienced, well-trained professionals in other countries are gone. Realizing that the cost to hire and work with someone like this Turkish judge would be $70K compared with a fresh-out-of-Harvard kid for $125K, I think there are more and more situations where hiring foreign lawyers (with oversight from lawyers who’ve passed the bar exam in the appropriate jurisdiction, obviously) makes sense.

  2. Gideon

    Hmm…. well, accept my apologies. I must have misunderstood.

    However, I do have the same debt and the same education cause I’m here… besides, I doubt many law firms hire associates from other countries because of the lack of US legal education. The only circumstances I see this happening in are international law firms and human rights organizations. For the rest, even an LLM is pretty useless.

    Just want to clarify though, that I am an Indian living in the US and I make far, far less than the 125K that you mention (the excessiveness of which I agree with you on).

  3. Scheherazade

    I can see why you thought what I said was despicable.

    I’m not Indian, but I never made that $125K, except when I was a summer associate at BIGLAW.

    But I think a lot of law students talk themselves into incurring lots of debt by rationalizing, “when I get out I’ll be able to get a job that pays six figures, just for a few years, and then I can do what I really want.” I think globalization is going to disrupt the likelihood that those high-paying, no-experience jobs will be available. And I think that’s lousy for the law students, but probably good for clients, and for the world at large….

  4. Gideon

    You’re absolutely right that there is a delusion among law students that they would be able to survive working at BIGLAW for a few years and make enough money to pay off their debt.

    I know of atleast three people who graduated with me who took that root. It’s a fair bet that within 2 years of graduation, all three have left their jobs.

    Maybe the rising cost of tuition has something to do with the rising entry-level salaries. Perhaps is salaries were lower, prestigious law schools would be forced to slash tuition costs, so as to attract students.

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